FR#48: Smoking Hot Cougars Are the Best Kissers and Another Failed Fourway with Potato

2010-01-27 through 02-02: Wednesday through Monday

LES, Loc#22 (Club), Loc#31 (Lounge), Loc#27 (Bar), Barnes and Noble, Veselka

Rufio, Dark Nes, Lupin, AltEgo

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Venom from the mPUA Forums wrote me this private message on Sunday:

here, willing to pua wingman it. but.. u need to make a commitment. learn, practice, conquer. (:

The previous Wednesday:

I come at night and take a bath. No one knows where to go tonight. I decide to stop being a chode and head out anyway. On foot, in the cold, I hit up more than a dozen bars in my area looking for sets. It is freeze, it is late, and it is Wednesday, so no one is around. I arrive at the subway with the intention to go to Meatpacking when I realize it is 2:30 AM. I think I'm committed.

Thursday:

Everyone has a blast, but I stay home to study, then I sleep early like a chode.

Friday:

Rufio and I hit up Loc#22. I get 10 sets. Nothing spectacular, but I am still hitting some AA walls.

Saturday:

Rufio, Dark Nes, Lupin, and I roll to Tribeca Grand around 10:30. The place is dead though, but I open and hook an 8 set of seated girls.

We bounce to Loc#22. Angel White Rose is there with a camera and a bunch of other PUAs. These PUAs stand in a chode-circle talking. After a quick introduction, Lupin and I start doing sets.

Lupin suggests a special opener that is completely idiotic - which means that I absolutely have to try it. We walk up to the girls, do the opener, and it hooks like crazy. I'm in that set for 45 minutes.

I get shit tested, but after I arm wrestle two of the girls, my target starts talking with me non-stop. I have heard about this phenomena from guys on the mPUA Chat Room - there is a tipping point where a woman will start talking your ear off.

I want to use Gambler's sexual eye contact techniques, but I cannot bring myself to do it. Gambler uses the technique when the girl is going on about nothing important. The problem was that my target was talking about something intensely interesting - important both to my target and to me. After 45 minutes, I decide to open more sets. I was unable to kino well and I was too afraid to break rapport by getting her number.

At the end of the night, I see her again and, what the hell, I try to get her number, but she does not give it. I wish I had had the balls to close earlier. Trying and failing even when it was too late should help me remember to close sooner next time.

Lessons:

>Always get physical, even if you have to arm wrestle. Comfort spikes, attraction spikes, but you have to start making things sexual. Feeling up a girl's biceps, abs, and back are good ways to transition to sexual touching.

>Always try to close. The goal does not need to be sex - it can be friendship.

>If it is too late to make a move, make the move anyway. Miscalibrating helps you calibrate for next time.

Lupin and I do some more sets downstairs and upstairs in Loc#22. Rufio finds us and tells us that he is really not enjoying Loc#22 and that he is leaving for Loc#27. We do one more set, then leave to follow Rufio.

As Lupin and I reach the subway, Rufio calls and says he decided to stay at Loc#22. We're a little frustrated - he could have told us sooner - but whatever. Rufio got one of his insta-dates to show up - a Japanese girl.

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Lupin and I are too lazy to walk back to Loc#22 in the cold. We grab some food then go to a party Whisp invited me to at the Loc#31. After a lot of introductions, Lupin and I decide that we need to do some proper sets. He points out a seated two set, a blond and a brunette, both very hot, and both in their late twenties - at least as far as I could tell.

We go in with our idiotic, two-man opener and...the brunette completely ignores us. The blond girl starts chatting with us though. Lupin gives her a high five for some reason after telling her she's fun, although I don't hear him. I really like the brunette girl - I love girls who give shit tests - so I say to the blond: "You look like the fun one. Is your friend here always so cold?"

"Oh, ignore her. She's just a bitch," replies the blond. Lupin goes to sit down next to blond. I move to sit on the table in front of the brunette, but she moves over and pulls me down next to her. I passed her first shit test.

I sit down and put my arm on the couch so it is draped over this brunette's shoulder with my hand touching the tips of her hair. This girl's hair is unlike any I have seen - it is the consistency of silk rope. I immediately start touching it. "Is this real?" After some banter, I begin tugging on her hair and I accuse her of stealing it from a homeless guy. Many of my comments seem to surprise her - she is used to guys giving her lame compliments.

She tells me I know nothing about talking with women. She says she is going to make me feel like a complete idiot. I grin, jab a finger into her chest and say, "I challenge you to make me feel stupid. This ought to be interesting."

A few times, the blond turns around and asks my girl if she's doing okay or if she needs saving. The first time, Lupin and I exchange glances - yeah, we'll stay in this set. At the same time, I am doing Gambler's stealth kino - touching her up and down her back in a way that her friend does not notice. The second time the blond girl checks in on the brunette, I tell her that she better get her friend to save her. "Why?"

"The biggest creeper in the entire lounge is sitting next to you, that's why. You better tell your friend to rescue you quick."

I tell her she has a very youthful appearance, probably because of her hair. She tells me that was the wrong thing to say - I should be talking about her skin, her face, and her body.

"Is that so? Okay then, those things look good too," I say as I ruffle her hair.

I tell her I'm afraid that if she slaps me, her big-ass ring will knock me out. She tells me the designer is Nicole Richie. "Okay," I say as I scan the room, admiring some other girls.

"You don't know who Nicole Richie is? Blah blah blah, friend of this person, lives in this place, la la." I interrupt her.

"Wow, you know, I feel so much smarter - learn something new everyday, right? So when are you going to make me feel stupid? I'm waiting..."

After that, the verbal shit tests end. Mostly she is talking with me, and I am sitting there with my hand running through her hair. She tries to get my age from me, but I don't give in until much later. When I finally tell her I am 21, she does not believe me. She asks to see my ID. "What, are you a bouncer? I'll show you my ID, but only on the condition that you show me your ID as well." I shine my cell phone on her ID only to see that she is 39!

"You don't look so old. You must work out a lot." I put a hand against her stomach - it is rock-hard sexy. "Got guns too?" I feel up her biceps, shoulders - this girl has abs, a firm back, everything.

"Baby, I've got the complete package."

"The complete package, huh? Do you have breasts too?" I feel up her breasts and she giggles.

Her friend taps her on the shoulder and I exchange a word with Lupin. By now, my hand is under my girls' jacket and I'm feeling up her bra strap as she talks with her friend. When she comes back to me, I'm talking with my face close against her cheek and I can feel the tension building. My hand is on the back of her neck as we talk so that we are so close that the kiss just happens. My hands are all over her. As we make out, every once in a while she breaks away and just stares deeply into my eyes. I return the gaze with a slight grin, though I try to stay serious. I do not want to seem like an excited, sleazy little kid - I want to show her that this is something I am used to, something that I expect. At first, I wonder if she is shit testing me, to see if I my courage will waver. Finally, I decide that the heavy eye contact is a huge turn on for her, a way of connecting with me, to see that I am for real.

(For those who want to know some of the techniques: Pull down on the meat between her shoulder and neck. Pull on the meat on her sides. Wrap an arm around her ribs and squeeze. Grab her throat as if to choke her (don't actually squeeze hard), then move your hand down her sternum, down her stomach, but stop before her crotch. From those two nights with Neko, I learned that all these things drive a sexually aroused person (male or female) crazy - and this brunette was going nuts. Unlike Neko, though, this woman knew how to reciprocate physically. In retrospect, I should have grabbed this girl, pulled her into the bathroom, and fucked her. At the time, I was thinking, "I don't want my first time to be in a bathroom." Now that I think of it, though, it would have been a fun way to lose my virginity.)

At one point, I hear, "What the fuck?" I guess the blond just saw us. The next time I look over, Lupin and the blond are making out.

Later, she teases me about my age again. "You know, you're totally right." I wave my hand across the room. "You should grab one of these 40-somethings out here and just take one home." I jab a finger into her chest. "I guarantee they will not make you feel as good as I will." I move away on the couch as if I am about to get up. She grabs my elbow and pulls me back.

"I love that about you. It's your wit. Your wit is so sexy, and it's like you don't even care, like you could leave at any moment and you just wouldn't care." She gives me her card and throughout the rest of the night, she keeps insisting that I call her.

Finally, her friend wants to go home, but my girl insists on staying longer. Eventually, my girl relents and we stand up. I twirl her so I'm behind her and I'm grinding against her. I turn her back to me and we're making out. I push her away and say, "When you get home, you need a long, hot shower. You're going to have the worst blue balls ever." She hits me.

"I can't believe you are telling me that. You are so lucky to meet me. You're like a kid in a candy store."

"Totally, but you know what? There's all sorts of candy here and you're just one kind." She grabs we and we start kissing and dancing again. We dance toward the bar, running into people on the way. I dip her, then pin her against the bar and grind against her more. After a few minutes, her friend grabs her and pulls her from under me. We say good bye, hug, and she tells me to call her whenever I like. I walk back to Lupin, dizzy with what just happened.

Lupin and I grab some food from nearby. He tells me that his girl is married and has a kid. Later that night, I hand Lupin my girl's business card and he Googles her. My girl is married as well. I did 17 sets that night.

Today is Tuesday. Tonight, I will give her a ring.

Lessons:

>Be the lovable asshole.

>Do not be afraid to tease a girl like she is your little sister or best friend.

>Casual kino from the beginning makes escalation easier throughout. You need proximity. Sitting side-by-side or standing almost face-to-face is, I find, the best.

>Be willing to leave the set if your girl is misbehaving.

>If you think a girl is on for it, grab her and take her to the bathroom. :-P

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Sunday:

Loc#27 with Rufio and Dark Nes. I did 10 sets, several of which were longer conversations. Conversation and rapport building is my sticking point, so I was happy to practice.

Monday:

February 1st - the first day of the Valentine's Day Challenge. Rufio and I ate dumplings in China town that morning. AltEgo and I then did Barnes and Nobles. I handed out nine cards and AltEgo handed out one of mine with my name and number in it. I did 23 approaches.

Later, AltEgo and I met up with Potato and one of her classmates, a Korean girl who lived in China. Mandarin Chinese with a Korean accent is so hot - I hadn't heard it for years. My target is still Potato, however.

We eat dinner at Veselka, then we bounce to my place. We get to massaging everyone, but the Korean girl tells AltEgo that he does not do it so well. I let him massage me and it's good, but it's too light and the pressure is narrow. What people seem to like is broad, sweeping motions with a lot of general pressure...if anyone was wondering.

After the Korean girl said that to AltEgo, he sort of chilled on my bed and played guitar instead of continuing to massage her. My conversation is not good enough to keep two girls engaged, nor did I think to nudge AltEgo back into set, so we lost the opportunity to simultaneously escalate these girls. I was doing all right with Potato, but with the Korean girl right there, I could not go further. Eventually they say good night. The Korean girl gets my number from Potato and texts me. I'll invite them out on Thursday and see what can be done. Hopefully Dark Nes can isolate the Korean girl for me so that I can work Potato.

Finally, it was a pretty successful night. AltEgo is did really well until he got blown out (really, it was a shit test that he could have overcame if he had more experience) and we had a cool time.

I was going to meet Rufio at Loc#27 on Monday. Last time, we arrived too early. This time, Rufio arrived before me and could not get in, so the night ended prematurely.